![]() Really horribly sick - Fentanyl is the hardest opiate to come off of, at least in my experience. It lasts about 2.5 weeks, for reasons I'd just as soon not blast all over the internet. I have misc other "lesser" meds ( hydrocodone, a benzodiazepine, cyclobenzaprine, gabapentin, etc), but the Fentanyl is my cross to bear. ![]() (Are we still doing the swim thing?)Ī little background - I'm a pain mgmt patient and have been on a high dose Fentanyl patch for a few years. Sorry to revive a dead thread, but loperamide + grapefruit juice has been a lifesaver for. I say not to mess with this stuff! That is her opinion. SWIM suggests never to mess with Imodium in a way to get high.Īlso if You uses grapefruit juice as a potentizer for drugs, not to take Imodium even if you are having bad bowel movements. White Grapefruit Juice + Imodium = A very scary experience. I think some people might be getting high, but thinks it is dangerous. Most people think that is bull and very dangerous. SWIM also found out about some people taking 50-100 imodium at a time to get high. I think that the juice allowed imodium to cross the barrier, which is why she felt like she might die. White grapefruit juice has a P-glycoprotein inhibitor. She found out it was an opioid, which she didn't know at the time she also found out that using a P-glycoprotein inhibitor through an IV allows this med to cross the blood brain barrier (info from wiki). The feeling was similar to an opioid, but the feeling was just plain terrible.Īnyway, I did research on imodium. She started having panic attacks because she felt like she might pass out and die. 30 minutes later she started to feel dizzy and odd in a bad way. She didn't even think about how drinking that would effect imodium. Again she took it with white grapefruit juice. She took four more imodium since it is supposed to be safe to take 8 of those things in a day. Four hours later she was still sick and looked up the maximum amount of imodium she could take in a day. She was drinking white grapefruit juice then. In the morning when it started, she took two imodium a few hours later she took two more. I started drinking white grapefruit juice to see if it would make gabapentin and klonopin more effective. I found out the hard way that Loperamide can cross the blood brain barrier. Using stuff like benadryl ( diphenhydramine) tend to put me in a irritated mood. Many of the same potentating suggestions in the opioid forums will work with Kratom, though the most success my monkey has had is with DXM. Don't take TOO much as the DXM will wipe out anything Kratom has to offer and your monkey will be on a DXM high instead of a Kratom high. 30 - 45 minutes take a 30-60mg dose and take a slightly lower amount of kratom than your monkey normally does and there will definitely be an improvement. Grapefruit and Cimetadine seem to elongate the high/ pain relief but something that really increases the high for Kratom is Dextromethorphan. My monkey ends up taking at least 8 stool softners a day to counter it and in some cases he has to use a enema to relieve himself. My monkey couldn't imagine adding Immodium AD to Kratom, Kratom on its own is one helluva constipation promoter. Re: Mixing Kratom with Immodium AD( Loperamide),the OTC chem that goes to Opioid recep I am worried it may be dangerous though.ĭoes anyone have input? Thanks in advance, I would really like other minds on this one. It seems as though they would enhance each other. Though they target different opioid receptors, it seems as though Kratom would "activate" Loperamide if mixed. I wonder if mixing Kratom and Loperamide will bring about a higher "opioid" effect. Point being, it is possible to allow Loperamide to act as a hardcore opiate (targets the same receptors as morphine,unlike kratom). Loperamide only crosses the Blood Brain Barrier in small amounts, though tests show if a certain dye is mixed with it, it produces full opioid effects for a long time (if injected,if in a solution it is a short duration). Loperamide sounds like a joke at first but, I have learned Loperamide targets Opioid Receptors in the brain, though they are different opioid receptors than what Kratom targets. Alright I have learned much about Kratom however, he doesn't know much about Immodium AD ( Loperamide).
0 Comments
Leave a Reply. |